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madhanv

Registered: April 22, 2009
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This is my First render using V2. I need to improve. Please share your comments

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Hi there! This is a really good start. The lightning and global settings are good and that's the more important. Now you have to work on material and details.

- 1st, please, take a car from the browser
- your railing material is supposed to be what, stainless, chrome? We got that in the browser.
-You need to have a stucco texture to your walls, they look too flat. We also got that in the browser. Take on and change the color.

From there you can add details to make it more realistic: flashing, gaskets, ground offset(your stucco walls won't touch the ground, the concrete will) . This depends on how much you know about construction, we can help you with that. Jim has an eye for those things . There are too may to point out right now, but I will if you don't have a clue.

By the time you make all those changes and post updated images, a new version of podium making all those plants look better could well be live.

If you have more question, do not hesitate. Keep us updated!

Happy rendering!

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Not a bad start! You need to tell us which version of Podium and which preset you are using. It looks like you might be using an outdated version. The current one is 2.9.

First of all get rid of that car! That has no place in any render
The Browser has lots of much nicer free ones.

Next, get rid of the climbing frame. Only add things to your scene that will make it look good and focus attention on the important things.

Then you need to get rid of those identical shrubs. You wouldn't see that in real life, so either make them more abstract or more realistic. There are some nice 3d ones in the browser. Generally 2d plants look fine in the background or as single items in the foreground. The minute you duplicate anything exactly, it looks wrong.

Next - you need to do something about those ugly handrails.

Overall, you need more detail in the model. It's a bit crude for a realistic render. It looks like it is made out of plastic. In reality, the material something is made of influences everything about its appearance. Texture, proportion, joints, fixing etc. For example on the first and second renders, how would you build that sunshade? Is it wood or concrete? If it's concrete, the proportions would be different (or it wouldn't stand up) and it would have texture, even if it was painted.

If you do no more than fix these things, you will improve your image a lot. They will add depth and subtlety that is missing at the moment. These things won't take that long, but will make all the difference.

The one thing I would say generally is that neither house looks like a real building. The colours, particularly when you change a colour along an edge aren't the sort of thing you tend to see in reality.

Another thing is that the windows don't match. Some have smaller panes, and some are just big plain glass panels with no subdivision. You need consistency.

Please don't feel bad, they are not bad images, but they could be a lot better without too much work. Creating renders that look realistic is tricky and takes a lot of time and effort.

Please post some updates with your progress!


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madhanv

Registered: April 22, 2009
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Reply with quote  #4 
Thanks. I wanted to add stucco kind of textures. There are a few in the browser but the color that i want aint there.
 
@Nick00: you had mentioned that you can change the color of these stucco textures in the browser. Can you tell me how ? (pointers appreciated)

@bigstick: I will play around with the 3D vegetation in the browser. I am using V2.9.9 with 1.05 external_default.pps

I will update my model based on your feedback and post again. It may be a while though. This is just my hobby, I am full time VLSI professional. I get to spend some time on the weekdays. Again thanks for the feedback.

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If you want to change the colour of the stucco textures, Photoshop or any other image editor is the best way.

You do have the latest Podium build, but it looks like you are just using some bad trees

Now that you have told us that you are not in the design/construction industry, some of the things you have done with the render make perfect sense!

Possibly the best way to learn rendering is to pick a scene from life, and copy it. There are some great sites here and here where you can get some photographs to copy. By simulating what you see, you'll learn so much more about rendering.You'll also learn a bit about construction, and see a lot of interesting and inspirational design. I have these on RSS.


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hello mate. the easiest way to change the material color is go to paint bucket from there....(note your chosen color should be in the sketchup working area also)
1. select the stucco texture u apply in the object
2. after you select go to the edit button.
3. and pick  the (match color on screen) tool.
4. and apply to the color you want.
5. and check the button (colorize).
hope it help.


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If its white....

Make Photoshop (or gimp) your default image editor. Sample the texture and click on the edit on external editor  button in the edit tab.

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Originally Posted by sniper_archi

5. and check the button (colorize).

This is not the best way in my opinion - it's a little crude, and you can end up with some weird effects.

Nick's method is almost as easy and gives better results

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madhanv

Registered: April 22, 2009
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Thanks. I looked at a youtube video. The steps are as follows.
(1) In materials window right click and duplicate the material that one needs to change color.
(2) Select the newly created material and click on color and edit
(3) Use the color tab on the material editor to pick a color one needs.
(4) If you have a photo and you need to match the color  from that photo then click on the magnifying glass and then go the photo and click on the color one needs.

Wola.. the same texture now has a new color. I am trying to find the the video i watched in youtube last night and i am not able to find it now. (will post the link as soon as I find out)
BTW i use a Mac so the steps may vary a little on windows.

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This should only be used if you don't have an image editor on your machine because it can produce some odd colour cast effects.

On the Mac you could use Pixelator in addition to the Gimp, Photoshop and others.

If you have an image editor (other than iPhoto) you should configure this in Preferences, and adjust the colour balance this way.

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madhanv

Registered: April 22, 2009
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New house i am working on. Feedback on the level of detail please.

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Difficult to tell with shadows off. Looks like more is needed on the roofs though.
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madhanv

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Render with materials. Need to add background and foreground vegetation.

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Don't add any more vegetation until you have improved the basic render.

The roofs need more detail and you really do need better textures. Only the brick is any good. 

For the roof, look at what you see on a real roof. Tiles have thickness and projections and fascias and ridge tiles. The more detail you have, the better, but the tricky thing is to learn exactly how much detail is enough!

Please keep posting, you'll definitely improve

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