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Coachwood2680

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G'day,

i need some help with the attached render.

I want it to have the same style/quality/realistic as this
http://supodium.zenfolio.com/p204608458/h3c55b90c#h245e2971

existing settings are;
6:00PM
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Dark 22
Light 19
exterior preview
podium physical sky 1
Exposure & Intensity at approx 1/4 strength

all critic is invited and needed

Cheers!

Jarred
RENDER FILE - BANKSIA - ACTUAL.1 2016-07-08 09574800000.png 

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That's a very Aussie looking house there.

You will need a background behind the camera and interior furnished and lit up. Your exterior light sources are causing some strange effects. Perhaps you had the caustics option on? Try removing or at least moving some of the light sources away from surfaces to avoid light burns.

The rest is choosing a nice background for PS and applying some filters. Google NIK collection works wonders and it's free.

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Sorry about that mate [wink]

Here is the render with your suggested changes.

Checked the caustics, that wasn't on...

I have moved the lights away, should I try turning all lights off?

And, what filters do you suggest? (I haven't got Photoshop)

Cheers,
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Looking promising, but a few things to fix to improve things.

1. Use physical sky 2
2. Use the exterior default preset
3. Get rid of that weird snow-type texture on the ground
4. Turn the lights off. You can't see them during the day. You can see them as it gets darker in the evening. If you want the effect in the image you linked to, use an SU background colour like the sky colour in the reference render and turn SU shadows off. Then you can leave the lights on, but you need to make sure the power is set at the right level.
5. Create window reveals for your windows. This means recess them in the wall
6. Change the view angle in SU, and make it no more than say 45 degrees
7. Move the camera down. Eye level is currently at the top of the door, which is okay for giants, but when you also have 2 steps up to the door, it's lie a viewpoint for a (tall) basketball player [smile]

When you have done the things listed above, you can add a background sky. Choosing one is not straightforward. Try and find one that is high enough resolution, and choose one that matches the time of day in your reference image.

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Thanks bigstick

Here are the renders with your suggested changes.
First render is with shadows on, lights off, physical sky 2
Second render is with shadows off, lights on, SU sky (same colour background as reference render)

Obviously still got a long way to go... 

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This is better. However in the first image you have bright sunlight and a dark blue sky with lots of clouds - this doesn't work.
In the second image, there is still a lot of ambient light, yet your interiors are way over-lit.

You need better background images that match the renders better. Most people are really bad at this, and you're not exactly great at it either. Come on, you can do better than that! [tongue]

Also - would you really want a plant and pot quite that big right in front of the main window?


You haven't adjusted your field of view yet. This needs to be 35-45 degrees - no more.

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Ok, i think it is looking better.

(not sure if the background is right yet)

What are your thoughts?

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Dear God, this looks like some kind of post-apocalyptic nightmare!

1. Find a proper backdrop, like the type that you are looking for
2. Render with the SketchUp background colour set to something similar - this will give your overall lighting the right colour and intensity
3. You've replaced the one big plant, with another big plant, but this is a 2d component, and the perspective doesn't match. Ditch this completely. It doesn't work practically, aesthetically or compositionally
4. Make your tiles around your entrance porch have blurred reflection
5. You can't use those lights over the garage door. They would be knocked every time the door was raised!
6. Change the camera field of view. In sketchUp hold the shift key while you have the zoom tool activated. This sets the field of view. The VCB in the bottom right corner shows the size. Set it between 35-45 degrees, depending on what works best.
6. You need some blinds or curtains inside the house


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Hi all,

Here is a quick update of a past render.

I tried to defringe the background trees, set it to 150 radius. Did reduce it but not enough IMO.
Any other way to defringe?

C&C welcomed.

Banksia - CONTEMPORARY-0-0 2017-09-26 17092700000.png

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Wow! great evolution! from 14 months ago, really improved a lot! 

and talking about the defringe tool now you have PS! 

 

now it breaths life, cool!

 

I was reading through all the comments just adding that the weird "snow texture" it's a glitch from the 2 1/2 grass and better use vegetation preset or QMC on that but now you got it right, maybe just adding some more variations on the edge of the grass with a grass shaped brush on PS?

 

and for me that's it very nice render!


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You’ve really nailed this!

It’s a really excellent image. The shadows, lighting, texturing, vegetation are fabulous. At first glance it looks like a photo. It bears up to detailed scrutiny as well, although the textures for the kerbs (joints in particular) don’t line up [wink]

Stunning [thumb]

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Thanks for the comments
Here is the final render....

Banksia - CONTEMPORARY-0-0-0-0 2017-10-10 17080700000.jpg 

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Man, I have to say the beginning to end transformation is pretty incredible! congrats!
Having said that, I slightly like the 2nd to last image slightly better. The shadows seem slightly more subtle and realistic to me and I like the pink clouds with a slight pink on the house as a sunset type of image. To me also, It did have the effect of instantly looking real at initial glance.
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The progress from your very first post to the last is phenomenal, great to see real effort and determination to improve. It has really paid off.

These latest renders are excellent, the textures, detailing and lighting is spot on.

regards,
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