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A sketch of a new kitchen for my dad. Some of the cabinets are too wide, I know. Will fix it later. I didn't have any photos of the exterior so just left it white for now. The lights are also on, sorry about that. Never understood how I could turn them off without deleting the little light-thingy in the middle. Need the lights to be available in some of the other views.
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What you can do, depending on the complexity of your scene, is put the all the "little light-thingy in the middle" on a separate layer that you turn off for your day scene.
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This is a really nice image - turn the lights off and it will be even better [wink]
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Maybe hanging the pictures a little more, it would help, think about how it hangs in the real physical world

my opinion on the plants on the table: eliminate one of the cloned ones (on the center of the table)

for turning off the lights:

http://suplugins.com/help2/adjusting-light-power.php

or the new plug in

http://suplugins.com/podium/free-plugins.php#lfoutliner



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Ah yes - good call on the angle of the pictures!
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Thanks JF and arqova for tips on how to turn off the lights, will fix it tonight! 

With regards to the "no lights on interiors during daylight-hours" regime: May i ask an open question: I agree that it sometimes looks better with them off, especially if there are very visible light artifacts on nearby object(like the wall to the right in this one). But in general I would guess most people have lights on not only after dusk, but also during the day. At least in Norway where I live you need lights almost all year except in late spring and in the middle of summer. Is there any other reason why "lights on" is deemed as antichrist?
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Generally when people have lights on in their renders, there is strong sunlight coming through windows. These are the kind of circumstances where people don't switch their lights on. When you have strong sunlight like this, it's kind of similar to your late spring and summer point - except it's extended to whenever the level of natural light is strong enough.

Secondly, it tends to ruin the global illumination. The presets are a balance between speed, quality and the ability to use them on the widest range of scenes possible. The settings are not optimised for all scenes. Ideally you would adjust the lighting balance for every scene, but that's rather complex. As a result the presets have compromises in terms of settings.

Adding artificial lights with strong natural light, particularly when people use pre-configured components as well as preconfigured presets means that you aren't achieving a realistic effect.

You can use artificial lights, but when the lighting levels are such that you need them. In this render the strong light through the window ought to be the dominant light source, except the corner light is just as bright, which of course would never the the case in reality. It is ruining that part of the render.

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Updated version.

Removed lights, adjusted picture, removed vase.


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That's wonderful! May we use it for the gallery please?
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Of course! Thanks for feedback!
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You for got the cabinet door. Try leaning the top of your picture frame forward to look like there is a nail behind it. right now it looks like its glued to the wall
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Going back to the discussion regarding lights, don't you think that the whole lighting balance is better now? Everything looks so much more natural everywhere. There are no blown out areas. It's a really lovely image with a great ambience.

If you want to turn lights on, don't simply accept the default lighting values in the Browser fittings. They are just our best guess of lighting output under a certain set of render conditions. If lights look too bright, lower the power until you think they look right.

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You for got the cabinet door. Try leaning the top of your picture frame forward to look like there is a nail behind it. right now it looks like its glued to the wall


Okay, i already this this but maybe it was too subtle.
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Going back to the discussion regarding lights, don't you think that the whole lighting balance is better now? Everything looks so much more natural everywhere. There are no blown out areas. It's a really lovely image with a great ambience.

If you want to turn lights on, don't simply accept the default lighting values in the Browser fittings. They are just our best guess of lighting output under a certain set of render conditions. If lights look too bright, lower the power until you think they look right.


Absolutely! In this case I agree, but in some of the others who have been posted here during the years I personally would have kept the lights on(dont remember specific examples unfortunately).

Bottom line is anyways that I have to dig deeper in to how the light components work. I usually just end up with hidden lems at least in exteriors because I always do something wrong when trying to adjust the lights. Either i turn them completely off or they just wash out. Need to learn which little thingy inside the component to actually adjust, yeah i know, should have learned this a while ago.
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This is a really nice render, it has all the elements in it that I like, good detail, natural sun light and good textures.

It also has a lived in feel and this makes it more real.

Great work.

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