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Hi, I just installed the new Podium V2 beta for win 64bit. I deleted the original V2 as outlined for Sketchup 2013. Then I did a simple box, added some metal textures, rendered the model, and tried to use the PIE feature in OOPR, but the edit button is greyed out. I can't figure out why, and I have tried several times with multiple renderings. Here is a screen shot showing I have highlighted the render, even clicked show, but still the edit button is greyed out. Thanks for any suggestions.
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I am not sure why that is. 
Can you access PIE from the SU Podium V2 pull down menu.  Tools----->Image Editor.  Will PIE open from there?
What's your Windows version?
Also, the PIE program should be here - C:\Program Files (x86)\SketchUp\SketchUp 2013\Plugins\SU_Podium_V2\programs\PodiumImageEditor.exe
There may be some Windows dependency program that is required and possibly you don't have that on your system.  Let me check.
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Good news. I checked on the plugin folder as you suggested, and sure enough the PIE .exe is there. I open up Sketchup again did another render, and low and behold the PIE button is active this time. Tried a new model, did the render and it still works. Crashed a couple of times but it worked. Thanks for your help, I appreciate your fast response. (I am on Wins 7 64 bit Home premium btw).
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OK. Good.  Not sure what crashed.  Did you say PIE crashed?  It's been really stable for me on Win 7 and Win 8 and on the Mac.
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Sketchup app. crashed "stopped working". The PIE remained open.
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That isn't necessarily Podium-related at all. I find that SketchUp crashes quite often, whether it's SU8 or SU2013.

To activate PIE, you need to select a render in OOPR so that it turns blue. Then you should be able to click on the PIE icon. Otherwise it doesn't know what file to open.

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Thanks Bigstick. The issue was with the PIE button remaining greyed out, after installing the Podium v2+ beta, & with the finished render selected blue in the OOPR. It started working on its own after about 5 tries of opening/closing SU (with a couple crashes in there), and doing a few new more quick renders in Podium. It seems to be just fine now.

Thanks again.

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Maybe the issue with grayed out PIE icon is because the file was not saved ( I am presuming this since it says untiltled) so the rendered image was never actually saved.
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Just to follow up on this. I tested one model without saving, rendered it and PIE is grayed out. Saved it, rendered again, PIE is accessible and works fine.
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DavorP, I think you are correct. I did the same. I don't remember, but when I installed the beta I just jumped right in to test the features, including PIE, with a quick shape and render. I must have not saved it the first few times, then when I did come back a couple hours later, and unknowingly saved the file, is when it started working. So good to know, the SU file must first be saved before PIE can be used. That is the answer. Thank you all again, sometimes its the little things that get you. I am very impressed that you all have been so helpful with such a small thing.
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Actually, that the first thing I tried after you reported the grey out.  I rendered an unsaved cube model, when it finished rendering, PIE was not greyed out on a unsaved model.  So I don't think that answer is correct.  It would be good to hear from others if they run into this problem.  One possibility, I guess, is something to do with where OOPR is saving the image.  I have noticed with V2Plus, after first install, that folder name for image save location can be garbage.  And if Custom is on, perhaps, Podium is unable to save the image to disk and that keeps the PIE icon greyed out.
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It works for me on an unsaved model too but only if custom save location is selected. I guess otherwise OOPR doesn't know where to save the image since there is no path for an unsaved model.
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FYI, all. When I open SU(2013), do a model and quick render (Podium V2+ beta), without first saving, the PIE button is greyed out every time, that is because, as you said, the "Image save location" I had selected is "model" (so there is no location path). When I then try to save the model, SU crashes every time.
However, when I do a model and either choose "custom" for the image location or first save the model, then do the render, the PIE button works every time. There is just one hiccup, if you choose "custom", then render, (PIE works fine) but every time I try to save post render if I did not prior to rendering, SU crashes. I have tried this numerous times over several days now.
So it would appear that it is important to first save the SU model prior to rendering to get everything working right, and no crashing.

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Actually Podium does know where to save a rendered image for a model that is not explicitly saved. On the mac, it's here:-

\Users\username\

On Windows, I think it's in the My Documents folder, but would need to check.

We should be able to fix this.

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For Windows 7, an unsaved file's Podium image gets saved to the C:\ root folder.
So I wonder if this folder has no write permissions, that PIE is being greyed out.
Not sure about the crashing that you are getting when trying to save the model in SU.  I can't duplicate that.
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