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I am literally sitting at my computer with credit card in hand ready to purchase a podium server licence. At the last second I thought to myself...I better check to see if it is what I think it is.

Is podium server a big, fast, remote computer that will render my files and send me the images?

That is what I want it to be.

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Podium Server is a version of Podium Render manager that sits on a remote machine, and monitors one or more folders for scripts, and renders them as they arrive.
Instead of rendering on your machine, you use the render to script function, and save the script in Podium Server's watch folder.

You can configure it to save all the completed renders in a separate location.

It allows you to offload all the processing to a machine on your network.

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I see, I was hoping that they would render on a machine on a podium super duper computer. No such luck.
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That’s something we have looked into.
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Look harder please[smile]
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that's a really cool idea, we can render very low quality renders for a complex scene and when we are ready for the final cooking we can send the script to the "render server" and it will tell us the price for the calculations maybe for a rushed presentation or really complex panorama for cutting time ( I will definitely pay for that service).
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Although it seems a straightforward thing to do, there's a lot of fiddly peripheral stuff.

Accounts, payment, uploads, forgotten passwords (oh yes, some of you are really bad at remembering login passwords [tongue]) as well as the web hosting and rendering, and support.

It's something we may go for when Podium 3 is done, but we have quite a small team for a lot of customers and some complex stuff!



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So, in the mean time while I wait for a super computer to become available somewhere, sometime, if a guy wanted to do a do it your self version of dedicated render machine and was willing to spend 10 or $12,000 us, what should that system look like. Are there pre made systems that make sense for this application or is it really a custom build kind of thing. I am just a one guy operation, but I am finding a serious bottle neck with rendering eating up work station time.

I do not ask this lightly. I am at a point where i really need to be able to stack up multiple renders on a system and have them cook quickly and efficiently. I would much rather be able to subscribe to a render farm service, but if I have to I will invest in a system myself unless we are talking more money than mentioned above.

If you have any thoughts on this Bigstick, I would appreciate hearing them.

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Boxx is probably the leader for pre-built computer graphics workstations: http://www.boxx.com/products/workstations

They have offerings from about 2k to 10k, so it's at least a good place to start researching some possible builds.



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Thank you!
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Thanks for answering big!

pmolson for the type of computer you need it needs to be something based on 

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    Multi-Threading: SU Podium uses multi-threading of your CPU so much of the rendering process will use all your processors (Dual/ Quad/ Eight).

But I would love to know the recommended specs for a render moster machine for different kinds of budgets ( basic, medium and high)

with my machine I just guessed a lot of things,(without really knowing) changed recently to an SSD, changed graphic card etc.

and maybe pmsolson you can have a dedicated machine (personal farming machine) with the podium server and send the scripts there via Dropbox or similar and the podium server will detect the script and start rendering the job, you even work on a Laptop on a business trip and render with your farming machine and just wait for the render on the sync folder.

 

That's one of my goals but I need to invest in another machine 

 

 


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just as the same time writing the last post big answered about the specs thanks!
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Theoretically, you could have a PS watch folder as a Dropbox subfolder.

The potential issue with this is that scripts can be big, and they have accompanying data files and texture folders. All need to be in place for a render to be initiated.

On a LAN, files are written quickly, and we can control which files are written first. With Dropbox, we can control which files are written first locally, but not which order they may be synced in.

It may work, it may not, we haven’t tested it. If t does work, it may not work each time. For cloud rendering we would need to implement a system which manages the render queue more carefully.

It’s worth testing though!

Good call by Justin about Boxx workstations. Very high quality and they specialise in 3D orientated machines. They are supposed to have great customer service too!

The type of machine you need for Podium is different to the new Pro Walker. That needs epic GPUs. The current version of Podium is CPU only though. If you wanted to use Pro Walker and Podium Server, you need to spend a lot more money unfortunately because you need both powerful CPUs and GPUs.

Podium Server works much better on Windows systems. We would recommend that customers don’t use OSX for this.


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A threadripper (or ryzen) machine/build would be a great way to go for a rendering machine for podium. 

Question: Does podium server support multiple backend machines simultaneously or only the 1 machine it is itself installed on?
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Our current version of the render engine does not support distributed rendering. This is where the job is broken up into pieces and distributed among a number of machines.

Dave has a 72 thread machine that we have been testing with PS. Justin can give you more information on this.

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