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Hello everyone: 

 

Here are some of my current projects.  I'm working mostly on exteriors now, preparing to update my companies product cataglog.  I applolgize for the trial version renderings:  I just returned from vacation and have just found the time to tell my I.S. department head to order the production version of Podium. 

 

The challenge still seems to be creating natural light.  I think Podium is close to creating a "near" natural light, but it takes quiet of bit of fussy experimenting to get just the right level of light and shadow. 

 

Shaky. 



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Shaky,

 

Welcome back from vacation. 

 

Really great exterior renderings!  The entourage of the family and their possessions lend a real touch of realism to the scene and the backgrounds are fantastic. 

 

Are the backgrounds imported into your SU model or is it post-editing?

 

For the near evening shot, I wonder if it's possible to create a sky dome over the entire project to create an evening glow off the roof, lawn and others objects (Several discussions in forum about sky dome, just use the search option.)   It may be worth exploring.

 

This may be a style issue, if so, forgive this comment.  But the images seem a little flat.  Are there any reflections on the objects like the car, bike, etc.?  Even a few on some of the objects would liven the scene up.  

 

Rae

 

P.S.  A Biebel Tip:  Check out these sites to generate larger images for your  gallery.   Photobucket at http://photobucket.com/ or Magix at http://www.magix-photos.com/us/.  Both offer free services.

 

 

 

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Thank you rae:

 

The back ground images are in my SU models:  merely a back curtain painted with a jpg image of a sky shot.  I've use these backdrops almost from the start of my use of SU, just to add realisim to the models.  It just seemed natural to incorporate them in Podium. 

 

I have played a bit with the sky dome concept, but I have not been comfortable with it.  Perhaps I should touch on that idea again, now that I have a better frame of mind after my time off

 

I have been holding of on adding reflections for the moment.  My primary focus is on searching for "golidlocks" light settings: you know not to bright, not too dark, but jusssstttttt right.  I expect to add reflective elements when I get my hands on the full version.  I'll repost when I update these.  with the long render times I'm already experiencing I am reluctant to add more complexity until I can produce a jpg that has enough resolution to be useful.   

 

I am aware of the photo suites you suggest but I have been entierly too busy to do much more than take a peek at them.  Vacations are nice but the pay back is hell.

 

Shaky. 


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Shaky

 

Nice renders. I love the angle of the last one..from the kids bike on the ground.

 

David


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I love the last one too. Very nice.

Did you just use the sun setting? or you've used LEM with the sun light?

Do you mind share the settings? Thankyou.

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artchung:  Thank you for your nice comments. 

 

I've experimented with LEMs but ended up just going back to SU's light and dark settings with SU's sun.  LEMs were just not providing a natural light or shadow.  Also, with LEMs, it proved to be very difficult to simulate sun position for different times of the day.  Shadows were just not projected in the directions I wanted or expected. 

 

I also tried huge Omni lights with different color and texture settings.  I suspect that if I were patient enough  I would have eventually come up with a light strength/color combination that would have satisfied me.  Being patient is not my strong suit.

 

I'm at home now, not near my office computer but I will post the light settings for each of these renderings on Monday.  I've found that light set at low numbers (mostly under 5 and certainly under 10) and dark settings set based on the time of day (lower for evening, early or late in the day) work the best.  Dark settings between 20-30 for low light, and between 30-50 for mid day seem to work the best.  Of course, SU's shadow location, and date settings have an impact as well. 

 

I'm still experimenting and logging settings to see what works the best.  By keep track of the setting for the successful renders I hope to be able to set up a drawing quicker.  I still have a long way to go to confidently produce quick renders with a minimum of tweaking.  My advice is to try different settings, keep track of what works or dosent and rely on your records to set up your renders. 

 

Shaky


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nice work , and very good render ,but in the first pic there is no real relastic.

and i wanna ask you : how you get this bike????

thak you

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Thanks. Shaky

I did one exterior @ work also. I agree w/you that using the sun is probably more easier. The only hard thing is to find the right Sun direction. I figured that the select location won't work properly. I ended up changing the location from US to Australia. I looked @ yours & it seems work out great. Again, thanks for your sharing. Look forward to your model. Always have something to learn.

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Ok, here are the settings for the posted renderd, in order left to right.:

 

#1.  Shadows are on

       Light = 3

       Dark = 65

       Time = 5:30 PM

       Date = 9/23

       Location = Wausau, WI, USA

      

#2.   Shadows are on

        Light = 4

        Dark = 25

        Time = 11:30 AM

        Date = 6/12

        Location = Madison, WI, USA

       

#3.   Shadows are on

        Light = 3

        Dark = 20

        Time = 3:35 PM

        Date = 2/15

        Location = Boulder, CO, USA

 

Kenzo:  the bike is a Form Fonts Model so I am not able to share it. 

 

Hope this helps

 

Shaky. 

       


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Thanks. Shakyshack.

u're the man.

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Thanks artchung:

 

I'm out of commission for a bit:  waiting for my Podium serial numbers to arrive.  It's just like waiting for Christmas again!

 

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i know that feeling. I had that experience before as well. : D
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Shakyshack:

Very nice exterior shots.....one of the best I have seen so far in podium.

And its even better to know that you have done these with the SU sun.  

Nice and clean images with a soft sky background.

The only thing that is of some bother is the mapping on the roof for both the houses. It looks a little dense (maybe because of the angle of the roof)

Keep up the good work

 

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d'jay

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Here is a new version of the bike scene rendered at 1024x768.  This is the same scene that bug splatted on me at 2048x1536, after 26 hrs of rendering time. 

 

Now that I have the full Podium, I incorporated some suggestions from rae and added reflections.  This scene required 13 hr, 46 mins of rendering time. 

 

This is a model of a home that I will be showing at a home show in four weeks and I intend to use these renderings as promotional material, giving Podium some nice publicity.  If I can get a larger render to go through I will print out a series of 24x34 posters of this home and several other models. 

 

I'll cook up another model and post it when it completes.

 

Shaky



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Nice......That looks excellent....I bet you were biting your nails when it was getting close to being done! That is allot of time to invest for it to go splat..like the last one. Shaky, where did you get the .jpg of the sky for your backdrop..I really like it. I want to start working on some exterior renders and I want to grab a nice back drop sky from somewhere.

 

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