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xicar

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Has anyone had problems with SketchUp not saving after you render with Podium V2? I lost about 2 hours of work today because SketchUp never saved my file after I did some test renderings. This isn't the first time I've noticed sketchup not saving after using V2. Unfortunately, I forgot about the problem today and didn't check to see if it was saving. In the past I've had to save as and reneame the file to get it to save my changes. I never had any problems with this before using 1.6 or 1.7.

Is anyone aware of this problem, is there something I can do, or is there a fix on the way?

Thanks.
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The image will be saved to the same folder as where your model is saved by Default.  So save the model and render again and check the folder where the model is.  If you have your own folder location you want the rendered image to be saved in, you do need to key it in from the Options menu.  Click on Custom in the Image Save Location.
I would copy the folder address from Windows explorer.  For Mac, you need to put in the computer's name such as /Users/yourcomputername/images.  Needs to be exact.

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Sorry I guess I didn't explain that well enough. Its not the image that I lost. Its the sketchup file that isn't saving after I render in V2. I click file - save and it acts normal and appears to save but if I go to the file location it doesn't always update the time under date modified. So for some reason the SketchUp file does not always save after rendering.

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Indeed! This happened to me too ... try to close the PRM (podium render manager) first and save then. This should do the trick.

Instead of saving the SU file, a backup was created named 0.skb, if this already existed: 1.skb, 2.skb, 3.skb and so forth...

These backup files are just fine, rename them and your SU model is back.


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Awesome! That's exactly what it did. Thank you.
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im having a slightly different problem, when pressing the rendering button in the mac version of podium V2 (sketchup 7), now the whole application (sketchup) freezes for nearly 30 min, the model was rendering perfectly fine before, and than all of a sudden it started taking increasingly longer time to send it to OOPR,

any ideas why this is?

the model is not very complex (a few lights and reflective surfaces etc) and it's only 5.3 mb big,

kind regards  a

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Grr, another posted response, another forum screwup causing it not to show up...

Second time lucky.

In my experience these things never happen "all of a sudden". If it worked okay before, Podium should work fine now, unless something has changed. It may not be something you have consciously done, it could be some kind of system file corruption.

We need more information to help you. Which version of V2 (have you downloaded the latest update?) and which version of which operating system would be useful...



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angel

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im using the latest podium version 2, 

SU Podium V2.0 Build 3 for Mac- SketchUp 7 October 10, 2010

and im on Mac OS X,
10.5.8 
all up to date,
processor 2.4 GHz core 2 duo
4Gb 66mhz ddr2 sdram

(when it renders finally, it doesnt seem to use very much ram at all, and is very slow, is there a way of increasing the ram it can use (like in the good old day when you could allocate ram etc?)

one other thing its doing is that it doesnt always save the changes in the sketchup model, i have to save as after sending it to render, otherwise i loose the alterations,

very frustrating if i forget to save as.

and i also noticed that the render / send freeze thingy is only occuring in this particular model, so than the question is, what can it be that i have done that suddenly slows it down so much? is it to do with the complexity (fairly simple i think), or lights or reflections?

thank you for your help,

kind regards a
angel

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Hi again,

another thing i noticed also, is that the new Podium v2 does not always recognize the views / and layer selections when it renders, i.e. for example i turn off a window layer and its not showing in the actual sketchup model, and i wait for the final render, and in it i still see the windows,

can be a bit annoying as each render takes way longer than in the previous version 
(though they look better, ones finally correct, in all fairness),

kind regards a
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The main thing to note here is that "the render / send freeze thingy is only occuring in this particular model"

Your model is at fault. Most likely you have loaded a component from the 3D Warehouse.  Most of these are fine, but some are badly formed so that they can totally screw up your render. Some use texture names that aren't valid, some use texture names with no extension, some use texture types that aren't valid, some have distorted, corrupt or overly-complex geometry.

Your layering technique (and as a result, your view setup) is almost certainly at fault for layer selections. As a rule it is better to create all your geometry on layer 0. Place groups and components on named layers. Otherwise you get into trouble where you turn some layers off, but they have sub-components on other layers which also get turned off. We have had one instance where textures were displaying in SU, but not rendering in Podium.

What is happening here is that Podium isn't entirely sure exactly which objects on which layers are supposed to be visible.

I don't understand what you mean about not saving changes to the SketchUp model. If you can save your model, you can save the material definitions. You can't save other Podium parameters on a model by model basis.

If you have a problem with a particular model, zip it up and post it here, or if it is too large, post it somewhere else (rapidshare, megaupload, yousendit - whatever. We'll look at it.

Periodically it is worth repairing permissions on the Mac. Start Disk Utility, select your main hard disk, then select 'Repair drive permissions'.

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Hi again, 
and thanks for your answer,

you were right, the model had a metal grille incorporated, downloaded from the library thingy, it turned out to be extremely complex on a closer look, and was duplicated a lot in the model, after simplifying this the render time / freeze has increased in speed considerably, (teached me a lesson to always double check downloaded symbols),

yes i use the layer options as you describe, but sometimes i tend to group several different symbols within one group so to make it easier to remove walls etc for better views, maybe this is the problem than,

i tend to repair disk permissions periodically,
will try that again,

the saving thingy i hope will be resolved now when the model is lighter,

thanks for your help,

kind regards anton

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