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Hello All,

     With the latest upgrade in Podium, our office is finally discussing the potential of using rendered panoramas for visualization tools for our clients, and the Panorama Viewer server is helping it along nicely - Spherecast.org wasn't a bad option, but the distortion and lack of zooming was an issue, and their website was lacking when it came to info, so we were leery of posting material there...  The Panorama Viewer server seems to address those issues, so thanks for creating!

     It's still pretty new, so this wishlist might be somewhat premature, but here's some feedback:

  • It'd be nice to have another level of hyperlink where a client can access an entire category with one link, and see at a glance what panoramas are available (possibly with an optional simple text description.  Currently, we send them a series of links via email, so it's not a huge issue.
  • The ability to hot-spot would be an absolute game changer, offering seamless virtual tours without actually being in 3D (Myst III anyone?).  It'd be nice for a client to click on a door and jump to the next space over, or click on the light switch in your rendering, and it loads the same scene, but rendered with a different lighting scheme...  Of course, when you this extra layer of complexity, there's a trade-off in simplicity of the interface, so there's balance to be had.
Food for thought...

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Thanks for posting this! 

The category option in the Panorama viewer allows you to group panoramas that someone can select individually. What you can't currently do though, is post a link to an individual category.

This is great idea, and something we could look into.

Hotspots are something we have discussed, it's a great idea but it's quite a bit of work. Not sure about how feasible this is practically.

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True about the hotspots - I don't see other viewer programs using them as often as I'd think, but perhaps it's the nature of the technique...

Great to be heard though.  Thanks!

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It's me again...

(some of this might be more like bug fix suggestions, but didn't want to start a new string...)

  • Thoughts on editing Panoramas that are already uploaded: would be nice to have way to relocate a panorama from one category to another; also could be nice to have sorting or manual re-ordering options for the panoramas and categories. Considering how fast it is to just re-upload/ process a panorama to a new category, I'd say this is a minor issue.
  • It's a little goofy trying to rename categories - the rename screen lingers and the category list doesn't refresh automatically, so I've done some accidental renaming a few times, with odd results as I try to jump between open panorama tabs... refreshing the page seems to fix things though.
  • Maybe add a little inertia to the panorama panning? (i.e. panorama slows to a stop gradually after panning, as opposed to stopping on a dime)  It may help create a more fluid feel to the panorama, or viewers may just hate it... It seems to be common in other programs nowadays, like Photoshop and Google Earth...

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I'd like to throw a quick Thank You out there to the team working on the Panorama server.  With the few posts/ wishlist requests I've posted, a majority of them came to fruition since we've been using the panoramas as a standard deliverable to our clients - how many other products or services can you say that about?  I say keep up the good work with the continuous improvement, and thanks for listening.

On that note, I'd like to chance another request- regarding the "Replace" option for switching out an uploaded panorama image, I notice that it generates a new link when you do so.  Is it possible to save the old link instead (or perhaps add it as option)?  Typically we, provide a client with a document that has the panorama link, and when there's a design change, we have to re-issue the document with the newly generated link.

I've seen other cloud servers like Google Drive and A360 use a "versioning" method, where a record of each replacement is kept with the currently asset, if you're feeling like an overachiever...  Still, just maintaining the old link would help us out.

Thanks!

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Seems reasonable to me. However - for it to work, the new pano image would need to have the same resolution and filename as the previous one.

Otherwise it would need a new html file, which would need to replace the old one but use the same URL, which would be more complex.

I've asked about it, no promises [wink]

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It's me again - got some more wishes to list out there:

Panorama Server:
  • I'm liking the the Replace and Search/filter bar that have been added.  A "Relocate" button would be nice, so that a user can assign a panorama to a different Category.
  • Still crossing my fingers for a Replace that keeps the same URL... [wink]
  • Perhaps a checkbox to "Use File Name as Panorama Name" when uploading a new panorama.  This would be esepcially useful when uploading a series of files for a Tour (or perhaps a different utility entirely for uploading several files at once).
  • Personally I don't mind, but some users have pointed out the distortions visible when looking straight up or down.  I'm not sure if this a a function of the server viewer or a limitation from when the stretched equi-rectangular image is exported out of Sketchup, but couldn't hurt to mention.

Panorama Tours:
  • Mentioned in a different post, but some Panoramas don't show up as available for inclusion in a Tour.
  • Again, a Utility for uploading several files at once could streamline things.
  • Is there a way to have a user's cursor interact with a Hotspot, to better draw attention without obscuring the image?  For example, the cursor can change its icon when it hovers over a hotspot, or the hotspot can temporarily highlight when hovering?
  • In general, the Tour creation utility is a little rough around the edges, but workable.  Most desirable would be the ability to set default Hotspot properties (i.e. color, size, style) before creating them, to help reduce tedium and keep consistent styles.
  • The directional hotpsot icons only interact when clicking near their arrowhead (also true for a user taking a tour); perhaps the entire icon can interact?
  • Suggestion for a hotspot shape: a plain circle with a transparency property.
  • An option to specify a default rotaion for each panorama would be nice, possibly with the option to vary this per hotspot, though this might become quite complex quite quickly...  Perhaps the simplest approach is to just leave things as they are currently and just export panoramas from Sketchup all facing the same global direction.

Thanks for listening!

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Hello Guys! With one question/confirmation to the pano server.

 

http://www.panopdm.com/

 

Is there a way of adding the service for creating "embedded" codes for our portfolios and external webpages?


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Sorry Andrès, I don't understand, could you maybe explain a bit more please?
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I will try, but I'm no expert. 

 

I know the panorama is hosted on panopdm and we can share the link to our clients or anyone that way, that is awesome, but there is a way of generating a embed code ( I think is HTML) to add a frame or box into a portfolio or webpage? using the service inside panopdm and making a "window" to the panorama inside panopdm... I'm not sure if this is clear


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Is there a way of adding the service for creating "embedded" codes for our portfolios and external webpages?


My experience with setting up webpages and embedding code is very minimal, but my company has had luck embedding panoramas via Google Sites.  I'm not sure it works in other platforms, but in Google Sites there's an option to insert an embedded link, where we provides the URL link that is generated from panopdm.com, and it returns an embedded box that we scale to appropriate size.

Here's an example link, similar what we typically do:
https://sites.google.com/view/wh-smartsheet-test/home

Is this what you had in mind?

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Yep something like that!
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It's possible, but I think it would most likely be a paid feature


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Does this do what you want?

More information here.

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Thanks bigstick, I will try the:

 

B. Using iFrame to embed the Panorama in a web page

We can use iFrames as well so that the Panorama is embedded in the web page and will display at the same size as the static image that is clicked on.


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